Great knowledge great sorrows. Do you agree that knowledge multiplies sorrow


Answered by Vasily Yunak, 06/11/2007


Antonova Ekaterina writes:“The expression “Many knowledge, many sorrows” is taken from the Bible? Where does the expression "Love your neighbor as yourself" come from?

Vladimir asks:"Ex, Orient, Lux connected with the light of the Star of Bethlehem?"

The first saying originates in the words of the wise Solomon: “And I gave my heart to know wisdom and to know folly and stupidity: I learned that this is vexation of the spirit; because in much wisdom there is much sorrow; and whoever increases knowledge, increases sorrow "(). Why is it so? Let's remember our forefathers Adam and Eve. God gave them everything, but only forbade them to eat the fruit of the tree of the Knowledge of good and evil. It is the knowledge of evil and sin, the knowledge of stupidity - that brings sorrow. Satan cannot tempt us with what we do not know. But he always appeals to our knowledge, to our experience of sin. At the same time, he obscures the bad and sticks out the pleasant in sin - just like it is done in professional advertising.

We cannot think about what we do not know. But as soon as we know something, it will certainly leave its mark on our lives sooner or later. And there is a high probability that this imprint will not be joyful. Look at the current news - are they happy? Is it worth knowing them? Do they bring us sadness? And the discovery of the atom - didn't it bring sadness? And the invention of the Internet - does not this, along with many positive aspects also the sadness that the Internet is used much more for the distribution of pornography than useful knowledge? And even the knowledge of the truth about God - now the words of one gospel hymn sound in my thoughts: “Golgotha, you are sorrow for us: there Holy Blood was shed; Golgotha, you and joy to us: there the path to heaven was opened.

As you can see, there is indeed a lot of sadness in a lot of knowledge. But the Lord can turn any sorrow into joy: “Truly, truly, I say to you, you will weep and mourn, and the world will rejoice; you will be sad, but your sorrow will turn into joy. A woman, when she gives birth, endures sorrow, because her hour has come; but when she gives birth to a baby, she no longer remembers sorrow for joy, because a man was born into the world. So now you also have sorrow; but I will see you again, and your heart will rejoice, and no one will take your joy from you "().

The second statement is more commonly known as the Second Commandment of Jesus Christ. It is written in; ; ; . But in fact, this commandment was known even earlier, in Old Testament. In the same form, it was given by the Lord through Moses and recorded in. The Two Commandments of Jesus Christ, as many Christians think of them, are nothing more than simply the essence of the moral Law of God, which was given on two tablets - the first tablet contains four commandments that prescribe our relationship to God, and the second tablet contains six commandments that prescribe our relationship with our neighbors. That is why Christ said about these commandments that "all the law and the prophets are established on these two commandments" ().

At the same time, in the Gospel we find a slightly different edition of this commandment. Here it is served as the New commandment of Jesus Christ: "I give you a new commandment, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another" (). But the whole newness of this commandment is that Christ sets a higher standard of love. Before Christ died at Calvary, the highest standard of love was man's love for himself. But Christ showed another level of love - sacrificial love. “You have heard that it was said: love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you,

do good to those who hate you and pray for those who despitefully use you and persecute you, that you may be sons of your Father in Heaven, for He commands His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. For if you love those who love you, what reward will you have? Do not the publicans do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what special thing do you do? Don't the pagans do the same? So be perfect, even as your heavenly Father is perfect."

As for the Star of Bethlehem, the most different words on the different languages. I do not know the word "Ex" you quoted, but the words "Orient" and "Lux" are of Latin origin and have the meanings "East" and "Light" respectively. Naturally, they are used in the description of the Christmas story in those places where the light is mentioned and the wise men from the East are spoken of. But there is nothing sacred in these words, just as they do not have any special immediate meaning associated with the Star of Bethlehem. Just Latin for a long time was the liturgical language of many Christians in the world, and still remains

official language Roman Catholic Church. So we meet Latin words in Western Christian vocabulary, as well as Slavic words in Eastern Christian vocabulary.

The Lord bless you!

Vasily Yunak

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From the Bible (Church Slavonic text). In the Old Testament (the Book of Ecclesiastes, or Preacher) it is written (ch. 1, verses 17-18): “And I gave my heart to know wisdom and to know foolishness and stupidity; I learned that this, too, is the vexation of the spirit. For in much wisdom there is much sorrow; and whoever increases knowledge, increases sorrow” (Russian translation).
Allegorically: the more a person learns about himself, his neighbors and about the world as a whole, the more he knows his own and others' imperfection, the greater his sadness about this.
Used: also as a playfully ironic form of refusing any information.

encyclopedic Dictionary winged words and expressions. - M.: "Lokid-Press". Vadim Serov. 2003 .


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How often do we hear from our wisest teachers and revered parents "Scientia est potentia" - "Knowledge is power" or something else popular expression“Knowledge is light, ignorance is darkness.” But have you, honorable citizens, thought about the question whether these words are true for each of us or whether life presents us with situations in which it is better not to know the truth? It is to this topic that my speech will be devoted today.
The thinkers of ancient times and the poets of our state known to us expressed other ideas in their writings; for them, knowledge was not an absolute criterion of happiness and a guarantee of a good life. The ruler of the kingdom of Israel, the legendary Solomon, the son of King David and Bathsheba, in the "Book of Ecclesiastes" brings to our reflection clear evidence that "from much wisdom there is much sorrow, and he who increases knowledge increases sorrow." Is it so? I support the thought of Solomon, for even mine, small, life experience makes me convinced of the truth of these words.
O esteemed citizens, what are we trying to learn while living in this mortal world? The essence of things and the secrets of nature, human psychology and himself. Yes! The hardest thing for us to know is ourselves. But doesn't it seem to you, esteemed citizens, and to you, oh wise masters, that sometimes it is better not to know the truth behind the veil of consciousness?
How joyful it is for a young mind when it discovers something new and, as it seems to it, something hitherto unknown! And what a disappointment awaits him when he learns that someone has already made this discovery a long time ago. Knowledge brought him misfortune, but a fool would remain in joy and happiness, naively believing that he was wiser than all those who lived before him. Solomon, through the mouth of Ecclesiastes, said: “There is no other happiness for a person than to eat and drink, and that his soul be good from his work.” But he who finds out that the work turned out to be in vain will not be happy, his soul will not have peace. So, oh respectable citizens, is it really necessary for us to remain fools and refuse to know the truth?
Not! No, I am not asking you to remain in the dark! For "wisdom is the best weapon, and one erring one will destroy much good." Going along any path, a fool, meeting people smarter than himself, in their eyes will still look like a fool. And considering himself wise, he only deceives himself, for "he does not have enough reason" to convince others of his wisdom.
But how often, O honored citizens, does one fool meet many wise men? No, much more often the wise falls into the company of fools. But even in this case, trouble overtakes him: human stupidity knows no bounds, and what is beyond the understanding of fools is subjected to ridicule and mockery. How many cases does history know when the wisest people were hunted down by their compatriots and declared crazy? Great multitude. Although their names are known to us, they will eventually be forgotten. And there is no difference whether a person was a fool during his lifetime or struck humanity with his wisdom - "the fate is one for all." "The wise die as well as the stupid."
"Scio me nihil scire" - "I know that I know nothing." That's what Socrates said. And if we decided to connect these sayings of Solomon and Socrates, then it would turn out that he who knows nothing knows no grief either. But, O esteemed citizens, does not this also mean that the knowledge of our ignorance brings us sorrow? Later, much later, Giordano Bruno wrote that the one who does not see his own blindness is doubly blind.
It is bitter and terrible for me when I see a generation of young blind men wandering in the darkness of ignorance and devoting their lives to entertainment alone. Time will pass, both I and you will disappear, and none of the fools now growing up will be able to remember our names. And none of them will be able to see a single sage in the crowd. And there will not be a single wise man who understands that there are fools around him.
Whether to be a fool and remain forever happy, closing your eyes to the truth, or to be open to knowledge and become wiser, but suffer from an understanding of the imperfection of the world and the people living around us - everyone chooses for himself. Our life is just chasing the wind. And while we are alive, I urge you, oh respectable citizens, to KNOW, because we, the living, have such a choice, because "the dead know nothing." Know and feel this life in all inconsistency and richness of emotions and feelings. And if you feel bad in your soul, know that you are ALIVE. And you are much more alive than those who are eternally happy, but are not able to feel human grief.

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No adequate response from readers. And think about how you can live with this at all, if correct and logically consistent conclusions are drawn from this information?
Here we recall Cassandra, who had the gift of clairvoyance and prediction, but the Gods made it so that no one believed her. In fact, these are not Gods, these people are usually imperfect, narrow-minded, stupid and indifferent. No, better than V.S. You can’t say Vysotsky:
Frederick Sandys CASSANDRA

For a long time, Troy in a state of siege Remained an impregnable stronghold, But the Trojans did not believe Cassandra - Troy, perhaps, would have stood to this day. Incessantly, the insane maiden Shouted: "I clearly see Troy fallen to dust!" But clairvoyants - however, as well as eyewitnesses - In all ages people burned at the stake. And on the night when death, as it should be, winged, descended from the horse's belly to Troy, Above the beaten insane crowd Someone shouted: "It's the witch's fault!" Incessantly, the insane maiden Shouted: "I clearly see Troy fallen to dust!" But clairvoyants - however, as well as eyewitnesses - In all ages people burned at the stake. And in this night, and in this blood, and in this turmoil When all the predictions have come true to glory, The crowd would have found a suitable moment To inflict their usual reprisals. Incessantly, the insane maiden Shouted: "I clearly see Troy fallen to dust!" But clairvoyants - however, as well as eyewitnesses - In all ages people burned at the stake. But the end - though not tragic, but annoying: Some Greek found Cassandra's abode - And began to use her not as Cassandra, but as a simple and insatiable winner. Tirelessly crazy girl Shouted: "Clearly I see Troy fallen to dust!" But clairvoyants - however, as well as eyewitnesses - In all ages people burned at the stake.

It is terrible to know and understand, but not to be able to convey this knowledge and understanding to people. There is another interpretation that any knowledge received by mankind kills someone and the price of this received knowledge is immeasurably greater than the grains of truth themselves. Something on the poets suffered today. Yuri Kuznetsov NUCLEAR TALE

I heard this happy taleI'm already in the present way,

How Ivanushka went out into the field And launched an arrow at random.

He went in the direction of flight On the silver trail of fate. And he got to the frog in the swamp, Over three seas from his father's hut.

Good for the right thing! - He put the frog in a handkerchief. He opened her white royal body And started an electric current.

In long agony she was dying, In every vein knocked century. And a smile of knowledge played On the fool's happy face.



February 2, 1968 When you get older, of course you become, if not smarter, then more experienced. You yourself understand what tragic mistakes you made, you want to warn the children and ... it doesn’t work. Usually everyone gains their own experience, and the price is life itself and not always one's own, sometimes someone else's. I think with horror how the democrats - marketers divorced us in the 80s and we began to test it on our own experience and the cost was millions of lives (which we can’t even count for sure, maybe this is the worst thing). We have a monument to the UNKNOWN SOLDIER, everyone understands why, for what and WHY? I wonder if there will be a MONUMENT TO THE UNKNOWN VICTIMS OF LIBERAL REFORMS, when it is impossible to explain why, for what and WHY? Nevertheless, DISCLAIMER IS A DEADLY SIN (the author thinks that it is also UNREASONABLE OPTIMISM). Keeping in mind the above aspects, one must understand that without obtaining information it is impossible to draw the right conclusions and plan right action. Therefore, even tragic knowledge, which multiplies grief and sadness, ensures movement forward. Without learning, without accumulating and passing on the accumulated knowledge to the descendants, mankind would have died out long ago. Therefore knowledge is objectively necessary. And the last - knowledge is largely a creative process. But there is no greater happiness in life THAN CREATIVITY!!!

Is it necessary to take literally the words “In much wisdom there is much sorrow” (Eccl. 1:18)? Does knowledge really increase sorrow?

Hieromonk Job (Gumerov) answers:

These words are part of the verse of the 1st chapter of the book of Ecclesiastes. An accurate understanding of them requires reading the entire book and correctly interpreting it. This phrase, taken outside the theological logic of the author, was perceived and is perceived in accordance with the worldview moods of people: in the spirit of philosophical (A. Schopenhauer, E. Hartmann), literary (G. Leopardi) or worldly-ordinary pessimism, characteristic of most non-believers. Ecclesiastes (Heb. kohelet- “speaking in the assembly”) teaches to see the great and only lasting good only in God: “Let us listen to the essence of everything: fear God and keep His commandments, because that's all for a man; for God will bring every deed into judgment, and every secret thing, whether it be good or bad” (Ecclesiastes 12:13-14). But before leading those whom he teaches to the idea that "it will be good for those who fear God, who revere before His face" (Eccl. 8:12), Ecclesiastes, in the tradition of high biblical poetry, shows the vanity of earthly goods and worldly advantages . The monotonous repetition of the change of generations also brings sadness to the soul: “A generation passes, and a generation comes” (Eccl. 1: 4). The contemplation of the endless repetition of natural phenomena also causes sadness: “The sun rises, and the sun sets, and hurries to its place where it rises. The wind goes to the south, and goes to the north, whirling, whirling in its course, and the wind returns to its circles. All rivers flow into the sea, but the sea does not overflow: to the place where the rivers flow, they return to flow again” (Eccl. 1:5-7).

But even human occupations do not console the preacher. Work also does not give permanent happiness. “What good is a man out of all his labors?” (Eccl. 1:3). This notion benefit is, as it were, sought after, the achievement of which would make a person's life non-vain, meaningful. The Hebrew text uses a noun ithron. In the entire Bible, it is found only in the book of Ecclesiastes. Translators into Russian convey it with the word "benefit". However, we are not talking about benefits in the usual sense. Honest work done cannot be useless. It is vital. Ecclesiastes, no doubt in a word itron invests the highest enduring meaning. We are talking about happiness, which is not illusory and soon current, but stable and eternal. Without this, everything is “vanity of vanities” (Eccl. 1:2). The author uses the word havel(from Chaldean habal- "smoke, evaporate"). The original meaning of this word is “breath, breath”, that is, that which quickly disappears, evaporates. From here figurative sense: "an empty, fruitless exercise." The prophet Isaiah havel a deed that brings no benefit, vain, vain is called (see: Is. 30: 7). Solomon, the author of the book of Ecclesiastes, speaks not only of the futility of earthly things, but uses superlatives: hevel havalim("Vanity"). In Hebrew grammar, the phrase "hevel havalim" ("vanity of vanities") is called status constructus, that is, a conjugated relationship; It is used to express the ultimate degree of something. For example, in positive value: “heaven of heavens” (Deut. 10:14; Ps. 67:34), “king of kings” (Ezra 7:12; Dan. 2:37), “Holy of Holies” (Lev. 16:33; Num. 4:4).

The knowledge of earthly things did not bring relief to the heart: “And I gave my heart to explore and try with wisdom everything that is done under heaven: this hard work God gave to the sons of men, so that they would exercise in it” (Eccl. 1: 13). The disappointment was just as bitter. To his favorite expression "hevel havalim" he adds "reut ruach" ("vexation of the spirit") (Eccl. 1:14). Ecclesiastes was convinced that earthly wisdom and knowledge turned out to be the same vanity as everything in human life. He comes to the thought: “There is much sorrow in much wisdom; and whoever increases knowledge, increases sorrow” (Eccl. 1:18).

However, Ecclesiastes, brought up in the faith of the fathers, could not become a pessimist. He knew the ways of Divine Providence: “I knew that everything that God does endures forever: there is nothing to add to it and nothing to take away from it - and God does so that they reverence before His face” (Eccl. 3: 14). He who has found God in his heart, along with wisdom, also finds true joy, and not sadness, as pessimists who have not known God think: “Who is like the wise, and who understands the meaning of things? The wisdom of a man brightens his face, and the severity of his face is changed” (Eccl. 8:1).

The doctrine of wisdom in the Psalter, in the books of Ecclesiastes and Proverbs, as well as in other Old Testament Scriptures, had a representative value. It prepared for the perception of the highest wisdom, which appeared in Jesus Christ: “Oh, the abyss of riches and wisdom and knowledge of God!” (Rom. 11:33). Only by uniting with Christ can a person acquire true wisdom, which not only does not increase sorrow and sorrow, but gives the blessed joy of knowing a new life.