By order of the Committee on Tariffs and Prices of the Moscow Region dated December 13, 2014 No. 149-R “On setting tariffs for hot water for 2015”, a two-component tariff for hot water was approved on the basis of Resolution of the Russian Federation dated May 13, 2013 No. 406 “On state regulation of tariffs in in the field of water supply and sanitation." The procedure for calculating and paying fees for utility services is defined in the Rules for the provision of utility services, approved by Government Decree Russian Federation No. 354. Accordingly, the calculation procedure for payment for hot water has been changed. Now the fee is for 1 cubic meter hot water consists of two components:
First- fee for 1 cubic meter cold water.
Second- payment for thermal energy, which was spent on heating 1 cubic meter of cold water.
The cold water component is the volume of cold water (CW) for hot water supply needs. If there are individual metering devices (meters), this component is determined - according to the readings of the hot water metering device (DHW), in the absence of an individual metering device - according to the standard, i.e. 3.5 cubic meters per 1 person. per month.
From January 1, 2015, residents apartment buildings in the city of Lyubertsy, which are equipped with common house metering devices, charges for payment for hot water are made according to a two-component tariff: the cold water component for DHW and the thermal energy component for DHW.
Payment for hot water for residents of the house must also be made according to a two-part tariff. The house is equipped with common house hot water metering devices. Payment for hot water from 07/01/2015 must be calculated according to the current two-component tariff: the cold water component for DHW (at a tariff of 33.28 rubles / cubic meter) and the thermal energy (TE) component for DHW at a tariff of 2141.46 rubles ./Gcal.
In receipts for payment for housing and communal services from July 1, 2015, “Hot water supply” is indicated in two lines:
Cold water supply for hot water supply - the volume of cold water (cold water supply) for hot water supply needs;
TE for hot water supply - thermal energy spent on heating 1 cubic meter of cold water.
The readings of a common house meter - the amount of hot water for the current month and the amount of thermal energy consumed in the current month for circulation and heating of the specified amount of water are shown on back side receipts, for example, are as follows:
1089.079 cu.m. m. - PV for hot water supply (physical water for hot water supply);
110.732 Gcal. - TE for hot water supply (thermal energy for hot water supply).
The actual amount of thermal energy that is spent on heating 1 cubic meter of cold water for a home is determined based on the total volume of thermal energy to the total volume of hot water for the current month, which is:
= TE for DHW / PV for DHW = 110.732 Gcal. / 1089.079 cu.m. m. = 0.1017 Gcal/cub.m
then, the actual cost of thermal energy spent on heating 1 cubic meter of water in the current month will be:
0.1017 Gcal/cub.m x 2141.46 rub. for 1 Gcal. = 217.79 rub.
Please note that the amount of thermal energy spent on heating 1 cubic meter of cold water in each billing month may differ, because is a calculated value and depends on the amount (volume) of hot water consumed by the house in the current month and the amount of thermal energy spent on circulating and heating this volume. Every month, these readings are taken from the general house heat energy meter and transferred to the heat supply organization and at the same time recorded on the back of the receipt for each current month.
In the near future, residents will begin to pay for hot water according to a new principle: separately for the water itself and separately for heating it.
So far, enterprises and organizations are already using the new rules, but for residents the old accounting remains. Due to communal confusion, housing services companies are refusing to pay heat energy companies. Fontanka understood the complexities of the two-part tariff.
Earlier
Until 2014, the population and businesses paid for hot water as follows. For the calculation it was necessary to know only the consumed number of cubic meters. It was multiplied by the tariff and by the figure artificially derived by officials - 0.06 Gcal. This is exactly the amount of thermal energy, according to their calculations, that is needed to heat one cubic meter of water. As Deputy Chairman of the Tariff Committee Irina Bugoslavskaya told Fontanka, the indicator “0.06 Gcal” was derived based on the following data: the temperature of the hot water provided should be 60 - 75 degrees, the temperature of the cold water used to prepare hot water should be 15 degrees in winter, 5 degrees in summer. According to Bugoslavskaya, committee officials made several thousand measurements, taking information from metering devices - the artificially derived figure was confirmed.
In connection with the use of this payment method, a problem arose with risers and heated towel rails connected to the hot water supply system. They heat the air, that is, they consume Gcal. From October to April this thermal energy is added to heating; in the summer this cannot be done. For a year now, a system has been in place in St. Petersburg according to which payments for heat supply can be charged only during the heating season. As a result, unaccounted heat is generated.
Solution
In May 2013, federal officials came up with a way out of the situation of unaccounted for heating with heated towel rails and risers. To achieve this, it was decided to introduce a two-component tariff. Its essence lies in separate payment for cold water and its heating - thermal energy.
There are two types of heating systems. One implies that the hot water pipe comes from the one intended for heating, the other implies that for hot water, water is taken from the cold water supply system and heated.
If hot water is taken from the same pipe as heating, then payment for it will be calculated taking into account the costs associated with chemical treatment, staff salaries, equipment maintenance. If cold water from the State Unitary Enterprise “Vodokanal of St. Petersburg” is used for heating, then the payment for it is taken according to the tariff - now it is a little more than 20 rubles.
The heating tariff is calculated based on how many resources were spent on the production of thermal energy.
Confused housing residents
From January 1, 2014, a two-component tariff was introduced for consumers who do not belong to the “population” group, that is, for organizations and enterprises. In order for citizens to be able to pay according to the new principle, it is necessary to make changes to regulations. Pay by new system rules for the provision of public utilities prohibit. Since residents are still paying old scheme, housing organizations serving buildings with non-residential premises have received a new headache.
Charging for hot water supply consists of two parts, or components, each of which is highlighted in a separate line on the receipt - DHW and DHW heating. This is due to the fact that in Academichesky houses, water preparation is carried out directly by the management company in individual heating points of each house. In the process of preparing hot water, two types of utility resources are used - cold water and thermal energy.
The first component, the so-called
DHW supply- this is directly the volume of water that passed through the hot water supply meter and was consumed indoors in a month. Or, if the readings were not taken, or the meter turned out to be faulty or its verification period has expired - the volume of water determined by calculation according to the average or standard for the quantity prescribed.. The procedure for calculating the volume of hot water supply is exactly the same as for To calculate the cost of this service, the tariff for cold water is applied, since in this case it is cold water that is purchased from the supplier.The second component
DHW heating- this is the amount of thermal energy that was expended to heat the volume of cold water provided to the apartment to hot temperature. This amount is determined based on the readings of the common house heat energy meter.In general, the fee for hot water supply is calculated using the following formula:
P i gv = Vi gv × T hv+ (V v cr × Vi gv/ ∑ Vi gv × T v cr)
Vi Guards- the volume of hot water consumed during the billing period (month) in an apartment or non-residential premises
T xv- tariff for cold water
V v cr- the amount of thermal energy used during the billing period to heat cold water during the independent production of hot water by the management company
∑ Vi gv- the total volume of hot water consumed during the billing period in all rooms of the house
T v cr- tariff for thermal energy
Calculation example:
Let's assume that hot water consumption in an apartment for a month is 7 m3. Hot water consumption throughout the house is 465 m3. The amount of thermal energy spent on heating hot water according to a common house meter is 33.5 Gcal
7 m 3 * 33.3 rub. + (33.5 Gcal * 7 m 3 / 465 m 3 * 1331.1 rub.) = 233.1 + 671.3 = 904.4 rub.
Of which:
233.1 rub. - payment for actual water consumption (DHW line in the receipt)
671.3 - payment for thermal energy spent on heating water to the required temperature (DHW heating line in the receipt)
IN in this example To heat one cube of hot water, 0.072 gigacalories of thermal energy were spent.
IN the value showing how many gigacalories were required to heat 1 cubic meter of water in the calculation period is called coefficient DHW heating
The heating coefficient is not the same from month to month and largely depends on the following parameters:
Cold water supply temperature. IN different time During the year, the cold water temperature ranges from +2 to +20 degrees. Accordingly, in order to heat water to the required temperature, different amounts of thermal energy will have to be expended.
The total volume of water consumed per month in all areas of the house. This value is largely influenced by the number of apartments that submitted their testimony in the current month, recalculations, and, in general, the discipline of residents in submitting their testimony.
Thermal energy consumption for hot water circulation. Water circulation in the pipes occurs continuously, including during the hours of minimum water consumption. That is, for example, at night, hot water is practically not used by residents, but thermal energy for heating water is still spent to maintain the required temperature of hot water in heated towel rails and at the entrances to apartments. This figure is especially high in new, sparsely populated buildings and stabilizes as the number of residents increases.
The average values of DHW heating coefficients for each block are given in the section “Tariffs and calculation coefficients”
With the arrival of cold weather, many Russians are concerned about how to pay for utilities. For example, To How to calculate hot water and how often you should pay for these services. To answer all these questions, you first need to clarify whether a water meter is installed in this home. If the meter is installed, then the calculation is made according to a certain scheme.
The first thing you need to do is look at the receipt for housing and communal services that came last month. In this document you should find a column that indicates the amount of water consumed for the last month; we will need figures with indicators at the end of the last reporting period.
The first thing you need to do is look at the receipt for housing and communal services that came last month
After these readings are written out, they should be entered into a new document. In this case, we are talking about a receipt for payment for housing and communal services for the next reporting period. As you can see, the answers to the questions of how to calculate the cost of hot water using a meter and how to determine its consumption are quite simple. It is necessary to take all water meter readings promptly and correctly.
By the way, many management companies themselves enter the above information into the payment document. In this case, you won’t have to look for data in old receipts. You also need to remember that in situations where the water meter has just been installed and these are the first readings, the previous ones will be zeros.
The initial readings of some modern meters may contain some other numbers rather than zeros
I would also like to clarify that the initial readings of some modern meters may contain not zeros, but some other numbers. In this case, in the receipt in the column where you need to indicate the previous readings, you need to leave exactly these numbers.
The process of searching for previous meter readings is very important if you need to understand the question of how to calculate hot water according to the meter. Without this data, it will not be possible to correctly calculate how many cubic meters of water were used in a given reporting period.
So, before you start studying the question of how to calculate the cost of hot water, you should learn how to take water meter readings.
Symbols on the meter
Almost all modern meters have a scale with at least 8 digits. The first 5 of which are black, but the second 3 are red.
Important
It is important to understand that only the first 3 digits, which are black, are displayed on the receipt. Because these are cubic meters data, and it is based on them that the cost of water is calculated. But the data that is colored red is liters. They do not need to be indicated on receipts. Although these data make it possible to estimate how many liters of water a particular family consumes over a certain reporting period. In this way, you can understand whether it is worth saving on this benefit or whether the consumption is within normal limits. And of course, you can determine how much water is spent on bathing procedures, and how much on washing dishes, and so on.
It is important to understand that the receipt displays only the first 3 digits, which are black.
To correctly understand how to calculate the tariff for hot water, you should know on what day of the month the readings of this device are taken. Here, you need to remember that water meter data must be taken at the end of each reporting period, after which it must be transferred to the appropriate authority. This can be done through a phone call or via the Internet.
On a note! It should be remembered that the figures are always indicated at the beginning of the reporting period (that is, those that were taken last month) and at the end (these are those that are being taken now).
This regulation is prescribed in the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated May 6, 2011, number 354.
How to calculate the service correctly?
It is no secret that the legislation of our country is constantly changing, and therefore citizens are beginning to worry about the question of how to calculate hot water or any other utility costs.
If we talk specifically about water, then we should take into account the fact that payment consists of certain components:
- indicators of a water meter, which is located in the room and controls the flow of cold water;
- indicators of the meter, which shows the consumption of hot water in a given apartment;
- indicators of a device that calculates the cold water consumption of all tenants;
- data from the meter that monitors the consumption of the residents of the house; it is installed in the basement of the house;
- the share of a specific apartment in the total expense;
- the share that corresponds to a specific apartment in this building.
The penultimate indicator is the most incomprehensible, although in fact everything is quite accessible. It is taken into account when determining the amount of resource that was spent on everyone. It is also called “general house needs”. This, by the way, also applies to the last indicator; it is calculated when general house needs are calculated.
Calculation of hot water consumption
As for the first two indicators, they are quite understandable. They depend on the residents themselves, because a person can choose for himself whether to save the consumption of a particular resource or not. But in other cases it all depends on how often it is done wet cleaning in the entrance of the house, on the number of riser leaks, and so on.
The worst thing about this calculation system is that almost the entire part of the general household needs is fictitious. After all, in every building there are residents who incorrectly indicate their individual indicators, or, for example, one person is registered in their apartment, but five live. Then the general house needs had to be calculated based on the fact that 3 people live in apartment No. 5, and not 1. In this case, everyone else would have to pay a little less. As you can see, the question of how to calculate hot water still needs careful research.
That is why our officials are still trying to figure out how to calculate the fee for hot water and which mechanism would be the most successful.
Do everyone have the same rates?
To save money, you should always turn on the tap if you don’t need to use water at the moment.
To do this, just go to the website of the management company or just call them. Also, similar information is contained on the receipt that comes to each resident.
After this data has been found, the cost of the consumed cubic meters of resource should be calculated. Next, calculating the payment for hot water is quite simple; this is done in the same way as in the case of all other resources. You should take the number of cubic meters spent and multiply by the specific tariff.
It should be noted that today there are many ways you can save hot water consumption, thereby reducing your costs for paying for it. To do this, you can use special nozzles on the faucet; they will help you not spray water so much and control the pressure power. You should also open the tap valve not at full strength, so the stream will flow under less pressure, but the water will not fly out in all directions. And of course, you should always turn on the tap if you don’t need to use water at the moment. For example, when a person brushes his teeth or washes his hair (while his head is being soaped or his toothbrush is being lubricated, the water tap can be closed).
All these tips will help reduce the cost of paying for hot or cold water, thereby helping to correctly calculate hot water consumption.
Difference between hot and cold water calculations
Of course, this formula, as well as the one that takes into account hot water consumption, has many flaws. Due to the fact that general house indicators are taken into account, it is difficult to control where the difference went between the individual indicators of all residents and the data that was taken from the water meter installed on the house. Perhaps this is really true, and all this water was used to clean the entrance. But this is hard to believe. Of course, there are residents who deceive the state and give incorrect data, but there are also errors in the operation of the pipeline system itself ( sewer pipes Most houses are old and can leak, so the water goes nowhere).
Hot water invoice
For a long time now, our government has been thinking about how to correctly calculate hot and cold water and how to improve the existing mechanism.
For example, in 2013, our authorities came to the conclusion that it was necessary to establish standard norms for general house needs and it is this data that should be taken into account when calculating the cost of one cubic meter of water. This helped to slightly restrain the zeal of our management companies and help the citizens of the country. You can find out these numbers from the management company. But this only applies to those cases where residents have entered into an agreement with the management company. If we are talking about Vodokanal, then each locality will have its own separate fixed minimum payment. And, for example, an overpayment in a given reporting period may cover expenses in the next one.
As you can see, there is a whole diagram that makes it clear how to calculate hot water heating or how to calculate how much to pay for cold water consumption.
Calculation of the cost of thermal energy for heating 1 sq. meters of total area in 2017:
January-April 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 1197.50 rub/Gcal = 43.8285 rub/sq.m.
May 0.0122 Gcal/sq. m * 1197.50 rub./Gcal = 14.6095 rub./sq.m
October 0.0322 * 1211.33 rubles/Gcal = 39.0048 rubles/sq.m.
November-December 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 1211.33 rub./Gcal = 44.3347 rub./sq.m
Calculation of the cost of service for hot water supply per person in 2017:
January-June 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month *1197.50 rub./Gcal = 253.87 rub./person.
July-December 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month *1211.33 rub./Gcal = 256.80 rub./person.
Calculation of the cost of service for hot water supply using a domestic hot water meter in 2017:
January – June 0.0467 Gcal/cub. m * 1197.50 rub./Gcal = 55.9233 rub./cubic. m.
July-December 0.0467 Gcal/cu.m. m * 1211.33 rub./Gcal = 56.5691 rub./cubic. m
2016
Calculation of the cost of thermal energy for heating 1 sq. meters of total area in 2016:
January-April 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 1170.57 rub/Gcal = 42.8429 rub/sq.m.
May 0.0122 Gcal/sq. m * 1170.57 rub./Gcal = 14.2810 rub./sq.m
October 0.0322 * 1197.50 rubles/Gcal = 38.5595 rubles/sq.m.
November-December 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 1197.50 rub./Gcal = 43.8285 rub./sq.m
Calculation of the cost of hot water supply services per person in 2016:
January-June 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month *1170.57 rub./Gcal = 248.16 rub./person.
July-December 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month *1197.50 rub./Gcal = 253.87 rub./person.
Calculation of the cost of service for hot water supply using a domestic hot water meter in 2016:
January – June 0.0467 Gcal/cub. m * 1170.57 rub./Gcal = 54.6656 rub./cubic. m
July-December 0.0467 Gcal/cu.m. m * 1197.50 rub./Gcal = 55.9233 rub./cubic. m
2015
Calculation of the cost of thermal energy for heating 1 sq. meters of total area in 2015:
Heating consumption standard * Thermal energy tariff = cost of thermal energy for heating 1 sq. m:
January-April 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 990.50 rub./Gcal = 36.2523 rub./sq.m
May 0.0122 Gcal/sq. m * 990.50 rub./Gcal = 12.0841 rub./sq.m
October 0.0322 * 1170.57 rubles/Gcal = 37.6924 rubles/sq.m.
November-December 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 1170.57 rub./Gcal = 42.8429 rub./sq.m
Calculation of the cost of hot water supply services per person in 2015:
DHW consumption standard * Heat energy tariff = cost of DHW service per 1 person
An example of calculating the cost of a hot water supply service for 1 person with a fully equipped apartment (from 1 to 10 storeys, equipped with a sink, washbasin, bathtub 1500-1700 mm long with shower) in the absence of hot water meters:
January-June 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month *990.50 rub./Gcal = 209.986 rub./person.
July-December 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month *1170.57 rub./Gcal = 248.1608 rub./person.
Calculation of the cost of service for hot water supply using a domestic hot water meter in 2015:
The standard thermal energy consumption for heating is 1 cubic meter. m of water * Tariff for thermal energy = cost of service for heating 1 cubic meter. m
January – June 0.0467 Gcal/cub. m * 990.50 rub./Gcal = 46.2564 rub./cubic. m
July-December 0.0467 Gcal/cu.m. m * 1170.57 rub./Gcal = 54.6656 rub./cubic. m
year 2014
Calculation of the cost of thermal energy for heating 1 sq. meters of total area in 2014:
Heating consumption standard * Thermal energy tariff = cost of thermal energy for heating 1 sq. m:
January-April 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 934.43 rub./Gcal = 34.2001 rub./sq.m
May 0.0122 Gcal/sq. m * 934.43 rub./Gcal = 11.4000 rub./sq.m
October 0.0322 Gcal/sq. m * 990.50 rub./Gcal = 31.8941 rub./sq. m
November – December 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 990.50 rub./Gcal = 36.2523 rub./sq.m
Calculation of the cost of service for hot water supply per 1 person in 2014:
DHW consumption standard * Heat energy tariff = cost of DHW service per 1 person
An example of calculating the cost of a hot water supply service for 1 person with a fully equipped apartment (from 1 to 10 storeys, equipped with a sink, washbasin, bathtub 1500-1700 mm long with shower) in the absence of hot water meters:
January-June 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month * 934.43 rub./Gcal = 198.0991 rub./person.
July – December 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month * 990.50 rub./Gcal = 209.986 rub./person.
Calculation of the cost of service for hot water supply using a domestic hot water meter in 2014:
The standard thermal energy consumption for heating is 1 cubic meter. m of water * Tariff for thermal energy = cost of service for heating 1 cubic meter. m
January – June 0.0467 Gcal/cub. m * 934.43 rub./Gcal = 43.6378 rub./cubic. m
July – December 0.0467 Gcal/cubic. m * 990.50 rub./Gcal = 46.2564 rub./cubic. m
year 2013
Calculation of the cost of thermal energy for heating 1 sq. meters of total area in 2013:
Heating consumption standard
- January-April 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 851.03 rub./Gcal = 31.1477 rub./sq.m
- May 0.0122 Gcal/sq. m *851.03 rub./Gcal =10.3826 rub./sq.m
- October 0.0322 Gcal/sq. m * 934.43 rub./Gcal = 30.0886 rub./sq. m
- November – December 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 934.43 rub./Gcal = 34.2001 rub./sq.m
Calculation of the cost of service for hot water supply per 1 person in 2013:
DHW consumption standard
An example of calculating the cost of a hot water supply service for 1 person with a fully equipped apartment (from 1 to 10 storeys, equipped with a sink, washbasin, bathtub 1500-1700 mm long with shower) in the absence of hot water meters:
- January-June 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month * 851.03 rub./Gcal = 180.4184 rub./person.
- July – December 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month * 934.43 rub./Gcal = 198.0991 rub./person.
Calculation of the cost of service for hot water supply using a domestic hot water meter in 2013:
The standard thermal energy consumption for heating is 1 cubic meter. m of water
- January – June 0.0467 Gcal/cub. m * 851.03 rub./Gcal = 39.7431 rub./cubic. m
- July – December 0.0467 Gcal/cubic. m * 934.43 rub./Gcal = 43.6378 rub./cubic. m
year 2012
Calculation of the cost of thermal energy for heating 1 sq. meters of total area in 2012:
Heating consumption standard * Thermal energy tariff (supplier MUP "ChKTS" or Mechel-Energo LLC) = The cost of thermal energy for heating 1 sq. m
- January-April 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 747.48 rub./Gcal = 27.3578 rub./sq. m
- May 0.0122 Gcal/sq. m * 747.48 rub./Gcal = 9.1193 rub./sq. m
- October 0.0322 Gcal/sq. m * 851.03 rub./Gcal = 27.4032 rub./sq. m
- November - December 0.0366 Gcal/sq. m * 851.03 rub./Gcal = 31.1477 rub./sq. m
Calculation of the cost of hot water supply services per person in 2012:
DHW consumption standard * Heat energy tariff (supplier MUP "ChKTS" or Mechel-Energo LLC) = cost of DHW service per 1 person
An example of calculating the cost of a hot water supply service for 1 person with a fully equipped apartment (from 1 to 10 storeys, equipped with a sink, washbasin, bathtub 1500-1700 mm long with shower) in the absence of hot water meters:
- January - June 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month * 747.48 rub./Gcal = 158.47 rub./person.
- July - August 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month * 792.47 rub./Gcal = 168.00 rub./person.
- September - December 0.2120 Gcal/per person. per month * 851.03 rub./Gcal = 180.42 rub./person.
Calculation of the cost of hot water supply services using a domestic hot water meter in 2012:
The standard thermal energy consumption for heating is 1 cubic meter. m of water * Tariff for thermal energy (supplier MUP "ChKTS" or LLC "Mechel-Energo") = cost of service for heating 1 cubic. m
- January – June 0.0467 Gcal/cub. m * 747.48 rub./Gcal = 34.9073 rub./cubic. m
- July – August 0.0467 Gcal/cubic. m * 792.47 rub./Gcal = 37.0083 rub./cubic. m
- September–December 0.0467 Gcal/cubic. m * 851.03 rub./Gcal = 39.7431 rub./cubic. m
Hello! please help me figure it out. Our HOA has replaced the management company. The new Criminal Code charges us for hot water, referring to the methodology from Resolution P No. 354. The payment for hot water supply in our receipts is divided into two parts individual consumption and ODN and consists of 2 lines: HOV and heating. There are no problems with the first line in individual consumption... there is the volume (according to the meter in the apartment) and the tariff... but they calculate heating (i.e. the number of Kcal for heating) based on the general house water consumption (according to the house meter) and calculate the share of my calories based on the volume of chemical waste according to my counter. Calories turn out to be 0.74 (for my 6 cubic meters) and the fee in the individual consumption line in the new receipts has doubled. The previous company calculated it more simply; they simply took my CW consumption on the meter and multiplied it by the approved standard for heating 1 cubic meter of water, 0.0615. and the difference between the general house consumption and the amount according to the residents’ meters was distributed in the ODN part in proportion to the area. In the new receipts, the cellar with ODN is reset to zero... that is, as I understand it, new company He calculates everything for us together without separating the general house needs and the intra-apartment needs... or am I mistaken?
I reviewed Resolution 354.. and did not find the formula by which hot water supply should be calculated in apartment buildings with centralized water supply ( open circuit).. help me figure it out.. are the actions of the new Criminal Code legal? Thank you!
Hello, Natalia!
To begin with, as our President Vladimir Putin likes to say, “let’s separate the flies from the cutlets: the flies are separate, the cutlets are separate!”
In our case, the “cutlets” will be the hot water supply (DHW) scheme for your home, and the “flies” will be what the new Criminal Code considers and how. We will deal with the “flies” second.
First, we will deal with the “cutlets”:
Please specify:
At the beginning of the letter you write: “... The payment for hot water supply in our receipts... consists of 2 lines: HWA and heating...”.
As far as I know and understand the heat and power industry of housing and communal services, such a division of payments for hot water supply is used in a CLOSED heat supply system - in which two heat supply (heating) pipelines (direct and return) go from your quarterly boiler house (or from the combined heat and power plant), and the water for hot water supply is heated partly heating water in water heaters (boilers) located in each house (or group of houses).
Do you have a hot water boiler in your home?
Regarding payment for hot water supply in a CLOSED heat supply system: regulatory and technical documents allow two methods of calculating and paying for hot water supply, depending on which method is more suitable for the specific conditions of the city, on the settlement system adopted in the city between house management companies, Teploenergo and Vodokanal, or which is more “liked” by the authorities and accountants.
First:
the payment is taken under the item “hot water supply”, which includes the amount of payment for heat received from the boiler room and spent in the boiler to heat water, plus payment for cold water supplied by Vodokanal and then heated in the boiler and consumed by residents. Then this payment from all residents, received by the house management company, is divided by the accounting department between Teploenergo and Vodokanal according to the rules known to them.
Second:
The fee is taken on two counts:
- “hot water supply” is a payment for heat received from the boiler room and spent in the boiler to heat water. As a rule, this money goes directly to Teploenergo without any “shrinkage or waste” in the management company;
- “cold water for hot water supply” - payment for water supplied by Vodokanal and then heated in a boiler and consumed by residents. As a rule, this money goes directly to Vodokanal without any “shrinkage or waste” in the management company.
If a fee for “cold water for hot water supply” has appeared, then the fee for “hot water supply” should be reduced by the same amount.
However, at the end of the letter you write: “... I did not find in Resolution No. 354 ... a formula by which hot water supply should be calculated in apartment buildings with centralized hot water supply (open scheme)”
An OPEN DHW system is a system where water for DHW purposes is heated in a boiler room (CHP), flows through a separate pipeline and is then distributed to MKD water taps. In this case, the payment for hot water supply is determined in accordance with paragraphs 1 (for an apartment equipped with an individual meter) and 10, 13 (for one unit in a building with a common meter) of Appendix 2 “Calculation of the amount of payment for utility services” of Resolution No. 354.
What kind of hot water system is in your house - CLOSED or OPEN?
Natalia! Let's move on to the "flies".
Unfortunately, based on the figures and reasoning you presented, without having before your eyes (in your hands) the texts of your letter to the Criminal Code demanding to provide you with written explanations on the problem with calculating the payment for hot water supply and the corresponding responses from the Criminal Code, it is very difficult to give you an intelligible answer.
If you did not write such a letter, demand that the Criminal Code provide you with explanations on the basis of which documents the calculations were made, indicating their names, articles and items, including calculations using the forms of the corresponding items 1, 10, 13 (or others, according to who made the calculations?) Appendix 2 “Calculation of the amount of payment for utility services” of Resolution No. 354.
In your letter, refer to the Housing Code of the Russian Federation, “Standard for the disclosure of information by organizations operating in the field of management of apartment buildings” (approved by the Post. Government of the Russian Federation dated September 23, 2010 No. 731), as well as to paragraph 31 of the “Rules for the provision of utilities services to owners and users of premises in apartment buildings and residential buildings"(approved by the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 354 of May 6, 2011):
“...31. The performer is obliged:
...e) carry out DIRECTLY UPON THE CONSUMER'S APPLICATION, check the correctness of the calculation of the amount of utility fees presented to the consumer for payment, the consumer's debt or overpayment for utilities, ... and immediately, based on the results of the check, issue the consumer documents containing correctly calculated payments. Documents issued to the consumer at his request must be certified by the signature of the manager and the seal of the contractor."
The course of our further considerations and actions will depend on your answers.
Good luck with paying for hot water!
answer from Kalnin Yuri
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Uv. Yuri, hello! Thanks for your reply. There are no boilers in our house. We have an open hot water supply system throughout the Avtozavodsky district. And in many companies, hot water supply is divided into two lines: cold water supply and heating. (my mother lives in the next block, 9th floor. MKD they have hot water in one line.. tariff 109./83 r\m3) reply from Natalia Hello, Natalia! I understood this: Avtozavodskoy district is a district of Tolyatti?, since from the cities you mentioned. Samara and Togliatti The Avtozavodskoy district exists only in Togliatti. From pleasant memories Let's get down to business about youth. I'm still looking into your numbers. For some reason I just can’t “get into” the “methodology” of the chairman of the board of your HOA. She's kind of clever. It would be nice to have a payment document (invoice) in front of you. Please use in letters only generally accepted wording and abbreviations of technical values used in laws and regulations on housing and communal services. I will also get acquainted with the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated November 8, 2012 No. 1149, mentioned by you, the tariffs of the Tevis heat and power company, the order of the Ministry of the Samara Region No. 418 and other documents of the housing and communal services of the city of Tolyatti. I know this document: “ Guidelines(MR) for the calculation and collection of payments from the population for housing and communal services" Gosstroy, LLC "Scientific Consulting Center for Housing and Communal Services" ("NCC Housing and Communal Services") Moscow 2003, and in it clause 3.3 "Heating and hot water supply". Natalia! Do you consider it appropriate and convenient to continue the exchange of information and consultations on hot water supply (and on other housing and communal services issues) by email? addresses? If you kindly ask the administration of this site (E-mail [email protected]) give me your email. address, I will answer you and you will have my address - it will be more convenient than asking and answering questions about housing and communal services in Russia. And I repeat my opinion once again - if you want to succeed, everything business conversation contact housing and communal services and authorities in writing(or by email). answer from Kalnin Yuri |
Today, February 6, Tatyana Nestratova, head of the socio-economic development department of the city of Lyubertsy, spoke about the principles of pricing. According to her, fees for utility services are calculated based on the volume of consumed utilities, determined by meter readings, and in their absence, by standards.
The procedure for calculating and paying fees for utility services is defined in the Rules for the provision of utility services, approved by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 354.
Let us now examine the issue of determining heating fees:
Bodies state power subjects of the Russian Federation, i.e. The ministries of the Moscow region, by Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 857, are allowed to make a decision on the use of thermal energy consumption standards for heating that were in force until June 30, 2012 in calculations for heating.
Accordingly, the Ministry of Housing and Communal Services of the Moscow Region has secured the ability of management and resource supply organizations to apply thermal energy consumption standards for heating that were in force until June 30, 2012 when paying for heating.
In our city it is 0.0145 Gcal/m2.
Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 1380 determined that this decision is valid until July 1, 2016.
That is, the procedure for paying for heating in residential buildings does not change.
In houses that are not equipped with communal heating meters, heating charges are calculated according to the standard.
For example:
Apartment 55 sq.m.
The standard for thermal energy consumption for heating 1 m2 is 0.0145 Gcal/m2.
Heating tariff:
1991.13 rub/Gcal X 0.0145 Gcal/m2 = 28.87 rub/m2
Total heating fee:
In houses equipped with communal heating meters, the heating fee is calculated based on the average monthly consumption of thermal energy for heating for the previous year.
Wherein Management Company makes adjustments to the heating fee once a year.
For example:
Apartment 55 sq.m.
The average monthly volume of thermal energy consumption for heating 1 m2 is 0.0145 Gcal/m2.
Total heating fee:
55m2 X 28.87 RUR/m2 = 1588 RUR.
However, a common house meter showed that in fact it took not 0.0145 Gcal/m2, but 0.0150 Gcal/m2, to heat 1m2 of living space.
Accordingly, the management company at the end of the year - usually this happens in January - issues an additional payment for the actually consumed resource.
In our example - about 1100 rubles.
I emphasize - once a year.
According to the Lyubertsy Housing Trust, such a recalculation was made in 556 residential buildings, of which 276 were upward, and 280 were downward.
Further. In November and December 2014, representatives of the city administration and the largest management companies spoke on television, radio, and in print media and explained to residents that from January 1, 2015, the procedure for calculating heating fees is changing, i.e. residents of residential buildings,
equipped with common house heating metering devices, had to switch to payment from 1/12 - equal shares monthly to 1/7 - only during the heating period.
However, Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation No. 1380 postponed the introduction of this norm until July 1, 2016.
For hot water.
In the city, all houses are equipped with communal water meters.
We have already repeatedly explained to residents that
The Committee on Prices and Tariffs established a two-component tariff:
Cold water component
Component for thermal energy.
Cold water component- this is the volume of cold water for hot water supply needs. Determined in the presence of individual metering devices - according to the readings of the hot water metering device, in the absence of an individual metering device - according to the standard - 3.5 m3/person. per month.
Example.
Tariff for cold water - 30.27 rubles/m3;
Individual metering device - 3 m3
30.27 rub/m3 X 3 m3 = 90.81 rub/m3.
Without individual metering device - 3.5 m3
Total component for hot water:
30.27 rub/m3 X 3.5 m3 = 105.95 rub/m3.
Thermal energy component :
Tariff for production 1 Gcal - 1991.13 rub/Gcal
The standard for heating cold water is the amount of thermal energy required to heat 1 m3 of cold water to 60 degrees - 0.055 gcal/m3 (in the absence of a common house heat meter).
1991.13 rub/Gcal X 0.055 gcal/m3 = 109.51 rub/m3.
If there is a common house heat meter.
The thermal energy component for the needs of hot water supply is determined according to the readings of a common house hot water flow meter. The amount of thermal energy recorded by a common house meter is distributed in proportion to the consumed volume of hot water.
The costs of heating cold water to 60 degrees in the absence of a common house heat meter add up:
Tariff for production 1 Gcal - 1991.13 rub/Gcal
The actual amount of thermal energy that was used to heat 1 m3 of cold water to 60 degrees is 0.065 gcal/m3.
1991.13 rub/Gcal X 0.065 gcal/m3 = 129.42 rub/m3.
- The total cost of consumed hot water with an individual water meter and the absence of a common house meter:
90.81 rub/m3 + 109.5 rub/m3 = 200.31 rub/m3
- The total cost of consumed hot water in the absence of an individual water meter and the absence of a common house meter:
105.95 rub/m3 + 109.5 rub/m3 = 215.45 rub/m3
- The total cost of consumed hot water in the presence of an individual water meter and a common house meter:
90.81 rub/m3 +129.42 rub/m3 = 220.29 rub/m3
Hard to imagine comfortable home or an apartment without warm water. Proper organization necessary not only for household needs, but also is the basis of individual hygiene. A warm morning shower or a relaxing evening bath have become familiar everyday procedures. But few people know the specifics of organizing hot water supply. What is this, what important requirements must be observed when designing a system and how to monitor its condition? To answer these questions, you need to understand the fundamental principles of hot water supply.
What is hot water supply: tasks and functions
The main function of this system is to provide water with the proper temperature in a residential or industrial premises. In this case, it is necessary to take into account the quality of the liquid, the characteristics of its pressure in the pipes and the method of increasing the temperature to the required value. Depending on the last parameter, the DHW system is divided into 2 types:
- Central. Water is heated at thermal substations (CHS) and from them, using pipelines, it is supplied to consumers.
- Autonomous. To achieve the required temperature conditions, special heating devices are installed - boilers, storage boilers or This type of DHW organization is intended for small area premises - apartments or houses.
Each of them has its own advantages and disadvantages. Central system more convenient for consumers, but only if its operation is constant and meets temperature standards. Unfortunately, this situation in our country is more the exception than the rule. Central hot water supply - what is it, reliable way provide comfort in the apartment or a “headache” for consumers? This largely depends on the degree of efficiency of local regulatory and control authorities.
The autonomous method is more expensive, as it requires the installation of special equipment, laying water pipes. However, his performance characteristics and the degree of comfort far exceeds central hot water supply. The consumer can set the temperature level and control energy consumption.
Hot water requirements
Not uncommon planned outages and low temperature regime are the main disadvantages of central hot water supply. Such situations occur frequently, but according to current laws their frequency is strictly regulated. Russian Government Decree No. 354 defines the following standards:
The composition of the water must comply sanitary standards SanPiN 2.1.4.2496-09.
To control coolant flow, special devices for hot water supply are installed. Meters are installed only by representatives of the management organization with which an agreement is concluded for the supply of hot water to an apartment or house.
Autonomous systems
The practical implementation of these systems requires a professional approach to each stage of work. For design, you should know the main types of autonomous hot water supply. What it is, and how effectively a certain type will work, depends on the initial technical parameters.
Cumulative
Water is taken into the storage boiler from an external source and subsequently heated to desired temperature. DHW scheme similar type applicable for country houses and cottages.
Modern boiler designs have a number of additional functions:
- Several operating modes - economical, optimal and maximum. It is also possible to delay the start of heating.
- Thermal insulation of the housing ensures heat retention, which directly affects energy consumption.
- A large selection of models differing depending on the useful volume, functional and performance characteristics.
To achieve the desired temperature level, electric heating elements- Heating elements.
Flow-through
In apartment buildings, the use of heat exchange water heaters is popular. Depending on the installed equipment, there are following types devices:
- flow heaters;
- double-circuit heating boilers.
Can be used as energy carriers Electric Energy or thermal, resulting from gas combustion. The latter method is preferable, since it is less financially expensive and more effective due to its low inertia.
Regardless of the choice, any domestic hot water system must comply with standards, perform its direct functions and be absolutely safe for users.
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